"I'm sure you were," she says with a wry smile. She doesn't seem to begrudge him that. It's a little akin to how Arthur had been a bit of a rage monkey: she isn't keen on the results but she's not going to shame anyone for their personality.
Then she's leaning against the counter, waiting for the coffee.
"I guess that was kind of what I was asking," she has to admit. She peers at him thoughtfully, a wry smile curling on her lips. "So you like people to be simple and predictable?"
"People are simple and predictable. They have simple desires and
wishes and basic wants. They believe themselves to be complicated, to be
unique and individual. They like to feel that way."
"Except when they aren't," she says as the coffee starts flowing through. She'll lean against the counter. "Simple desires, simple wants, but how those wants get expressed, how they combine, how they interact with the rest of a person, with the people around them... that's where it gets interesting."
"It isn't interesting," he laughs. "It's just as predictable. You cannot sway me by waxing poetic about the benefits and pleasures of humanity, Saga. I simply do not care."
"I don't recall aiming to 'sway' you to anything right now. Swing and a miss, Mr. 'Predictable'."
She turns to go for the carafe now, pouring out for both of them.
"And that might be true back in your world, where you know most of the circumstances and understand the society everyone grew up in. But I think you'll find it's a little more complicated once you factor in different societies and universal rules."
"And someone in a position of authority to have your back," she says quietly. She knows this is a prison. She knows it's a lot of other things as well, but she also knows it's a prison.
"As you have proven today," he concedes. "I have been a model of restraint,
though. I would think there is no reason for me to need such an advocate,
but today proved me wrong."
"And I'm sorry that happened," and she is 100% earnest on that fact, "but I'm glad I was there."
She'd been there to look out for Vincent, but she was also there to look out for Iago.
"For my part, I don't have any issues with how you've been comporting yourself." He is what he is. Her work won't be to entirely rehaul him so much as get him to see the value in restraint and better outlets for his emotional upset. No one said you had to not be a lying jackass. "And I appreciate that. I realize this place is... a lot."
He looks at her and speaks genuine, actual, truth.
"I have no plans or machinations here, save for - one that involves another
person who is a willing participant. We've made that plain."
There's a 'yet' buried in there, but he doesn't think he needs to say it.
"I don't consider the majority of people here worth my time, and the Barge
provides enough amusement that I need not structure anything for myself.
You have proven that you care enough to handle my genuine grievances.
Revenge is never a primary motivation for me anyhow. Your biggest obstacle
now is simply convincing me that I need to put in the work to change."
"I'll be honest and say that that's about what I expected. Though I'll tell you what I told the Cat King: I don't think I'm here to change you. I think it's more complicated than that, and that's a road we'll walk together, figuring out exactly what you need to see and learn to be ready for your next chapter."
She folds her hands.
"As for what I'm concerned about, it's not you looking for trouble. It's how far you'll go if people start trouble with you. It's also the Cat King" and she holds up a hand, "specifically in that he seems content to start things and when slash if you'll feel the need to get involved and how far things might get escalated."
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Then she's leaning against the counter, waiting for the coffee.
"But you'd also be proving him right."
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"People are simple and predictable. They have simple desires and wishes and basic wants. They believe themselves to be complicated, to be unique and individual. They like to feel that way."
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"I don't recall aiming to 'sway' you to anything right now. Swing and a miss, Mr. 'Predictable'."
She turns to go for the carafe now, pouring out for both of them.
"And that might be true back in your world, where you know most of the circumstances and understand the society everyone grew up in. But I think you'll find it's a little more complicated once you factor in different societies and universal rules."
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"I am still not interested in engaging with it."
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He takes the coffee and sips at it, nodding at the attempt.
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She's curious.
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"I wouldn't. What do you have to offer me?" he wonders.
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"If you don't know already, then nothing I say will convince you."
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"As you have proven today," he concedes. "I have been a model of restraint, though. I would think there is no reason for me to need such an advocate, but today proved me wrong."
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She'd been there to look out for Vincent, but she was also there to look out for Iago.
"For my part, I don't have any issues with how you've been comporting yourself." He is what he is. Her work won't be to entirely rehaul him so much as get him to see the value in restraint and better outlets for his emotional upset. No one said you had to not be a lying jackass. "And I appreciate that. I realize this place is... a lot."
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"As I told another warden," he says, sitting back. "I have no need for violence. It isn't the first move I make."
He sets down the cup.
"May I speak plainly?"
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She gestures for him to go right ahead.
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He looks at her and speaks genuine, actual, truth.
"I have no plans or machinations here, save for - one that involves another person who is a willing participant. We've made that plain."
There's a 'yet' buried in there, but he doesn't think he needs to say it.
"I don't consider the majority of people here worth my time, and the Barge provides enough amusement that I need not structure anything for myself. You have proven that you care enough to handle my genuine grievances. Revenge is never a primary motivation for me anyhow. Your biggest obstacle now is simply convincing me that I need to put in the work to change."
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"I'll be honest and say that that's about what I expected. Though I'll tell you what I told the Cat King: I don't think I'm here to change you. I think it's more complicated than that, and that's a road we'll walk together, figuring out exactly what you need to see and learn to be ready for your next chapter."
She folds her hands.
"As for what I'm concerned about, it's not you looking for trouble. It's how far you'll go if people start trouble with you. It's also the Cat King" and she holds up a hand, "specifically in that he seems content to start things and when slash if you'll feel the need to get involved and how far things might get escalated."
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